Baron Auto Scam Blog
| 8/27/2010 - Story from G | Here's a story by someone who calls themself G. Which is cool, because I always wanted to be known by a letter. I was actually referenced at a job a few years ago by the number 3, because there were already 2 Jake's working for the company. Thank god I wasn't the 2nd Jake!!! Then they'd call me Jake 2! And nobody want's to be number 2!
And here's G's story!
Hi, my name is G. I accidentally discover your site, please keep it going.
I will wow to that Baron Auto mall does
suck. I will share my story with you but I am sure you have
heard it before. April of 2005 I went to Baron auto mall in Brooklyn, NY with a
friend of my who wanted to buy a car. That day all I did was gave him a ride and
I became the victim of fraud under Baron's Auto Mall's claw. They talked me
into co-signing for a 2000 Jaguar S types model, but my friend's name was no
where in the original paper. When I question it the manager claimed that after
six months I could come back and my name would be removed. (The contract I
signed had HSBC bank typed at the bottom and later it was crossed off and Wells
Fargo was hand was written there). After three months with the car my friend was
having engine issues. He brought it back to the dealer who will keep it for a
couple days claimed they fixed the problem only to find himself with same
problem thereafter. When six months came I was thrilled to go to removed my name
from the contract like the manager said only to find out that Baron Auto mall
was under new management and change their name to "Drive World". Wait this is
only the beginning ,it gets better. Two month after such news I received a
letter from the warranty company First Assure warranty Corp
(who I pay $5,000 finance into the loan) claimed that they have filed bankruptcy
in the state of Colorado. To make a long story shorts I am stuck with a car that
doesn't work and a car note from wells Fargo totaling $27,000. including
interest. I tried to trade the car in, dealers claimed that it only worth
$1,000. Wells Fargo doesn't care they just want their money. Just a thought, is
it fair to say that Wells Fargo is in on this too? because I see they are the
only named bank involved. Because I don't want my credit to be destroyed, I am
still paying $430.00 monthly to Wells Fargo for a car that is parked. Need $7,000.
to get a new engine. Share my story with others so they would know. Any info you
have that could help me please feel free to write back.
Insane right? Just driving a friend to get a car, and get's his butt raped in the meantime by these crooks.
Tags: g, baron auto mall, drive worldjake@baronautoscam.com Permanent Link to Story from G | 8/25/2010 - Apparently, I am not going to jail! |
Ok, so I sat and waited all night in my nice shirt waiting for the cops to arrive busting down my door in a flurry of bullets!
That never happened. So, I'm upset now. What to do now? How about another heart warming email from the daily archives of the Baron Auto Universe!!!
Dear Baron Auto
Scams!!,
Hello it's Michelle over at Baron Motors. It has
been about a week since you inquired about vehicles on our website. I just
wanted to make sure you received all the info you needed from us. Any questions
feel free to call or email me at any time.
Sincerely,
Michelle Scalise
Internet Sales
Manager
Sorry, I had to upload this email. It seems as if Michelle has gone and entered my email address (jake@baronautoscam.com) into some sort of lottery!!! I hope I win a goldfish!!! I'm still wondering why she decided to retract her facebook friend request.
Tags: baron auto scams, michelle scalisejake@baronautoscam.com Permanent Link to Apparently, I am not going to jail! | 8/24/2010 - Apparently, I am going to jail! |
Ok, so I just received another email from my 'source'. Her and her husband are both fed up with Joe G and all of his antics.
Here is the email that I sent out to my source.
Hey [source's name was here],
I literally just got back, I ended up driving down
to Miami to bring my brother in law down to school, and we took a flight to get
home last night. Sorry I didn't get the chance to respond to your email the
other day.
Let me just say, holy crap! I hope you get
everything you need / want from them. Obviously Joe is finally starting to take
some heat, and it's well deserved. He's been doing this stuff for years, and
it's time to finally turn the tables.
Thanks for the email! Let me know how things turn
out for you guys.
Jake
Here is the email response from my source for your own viewing pleasure.
Hey Jake,
Actually, my husband is fed up with Joe because on Saturday during the
phone call he called me a bitch; so he [her husband] does not want to deal with the
unprofessionalism. My husband and I thank you for all that you have done with
putting the website up. Also, Joe mentioned that you are close to going to jail
just to let you know.
Also, Joe mentioned that you are close to going to jail. That is FANTASTIC!!! Definitely my favorite part!!!
Now, what makes this so exciting is that I am doing no wrong. In some states, posting a phone number on a website to directly call someone in a story without prior permission is illegal. Fortunately, I live in a state that doesn't follow those rules. Also, I have never posted a phone number or email address other than my own, so I'm pretty sure it's safe to say, I'm not going to jail any time soon.
Also, I work for 2 of the best trial attorney's on Long Island, so if for some reason, I am wrongly jailed, we will turn around and sue. Not only may I make a couple 100k, I will also have a whirlwind of media attention, which will not help Baron or any of their affiliates in any way. Plus the website will be number 1 in all search engines if they decide to take that route. I'm at number eight seven on google only because I was trying to come up with an amicable solution for all these issues. Not because I can't get higher.
Oh, and Joe, can you give me a call when the cops come to take me away? I'd like to be wearing one of my nice polo's before I go away!
Tags: my source, joe giordano, baron autojake@baronautoscam.com Permanent Link to Apparently, I am going to jail! | 8/24/2010 - This one is a tag team from Michelle and Joe!!! (UPDATE) | Sorry, I received this email on Saturday, but I was on the road driving down to Miami, bringing my brother in law to school. But, here's the gist of the email.
Instead of quoting direct from the email, I'll just sum it up briefly. Ever since the last post, Joe G (I call him Joe G now, because its easier on the spell check) has come under fire for a few reasons, which suck, I know. But you can only do wrong by so many people before you get screwed over for your sneaky tactics yourself.
According to my 'source', she is telling me that he called her saying that he was going to lose his job because of her story, and it's all her fault why this is happening to him. And he has a family, and all that stuff. It's funny, because he actually puts the blame on her, and not himself.
Regardless, since the story was on the internet for everyone to see, and he got in a little hot water, he is going to try to do some good. If he does do as he says he will, I will be sure to let everyone know in a later post. I will just await a response from my source.
I feel like a spy, because I have a 'source'.
Oh, and one final thing, during the phone call, Joe also said that my source was harassing Michelle Scalise for asking about why the sale price wasn't found anywhere on the contract that she had signed.
Tags: my source, joe giordano, baron auto, michelle scalisejake@baronautoscam.com Permanent Link to This one is a tag team from Michelle and Joe!!! (UPDATE) | 8/19/2010 - And the emails keep coming! |
This one is from a guy by the name of Jay. I absolutely LOVE his energy in this email. It's inspiring! I decided to put this one on the top of my list because it is so high energy and chock full of info! Others coming soon. I'm taking a drive down to Miami tonight, so I won't update until early next week!
Hi Jake! I just read aout all the people that got SCAMMED & RIPPED
OFF by those S--------BAGS at BARON AUTO MALL all over NY & long island!
It happened to me also. I signed some papers not aware that i signed a BLANK
CONTRACT(it was underneath all the papers i signed & initialed).After they
let me take the car home I called the VERY NEXT DAY TO SIGN & PICK UP THE
CONTRACT but they said the bank didn't have it READY so call back tomorrow which
i did but they gave me the same answer! After 19 days I called Chase to find out
when my payment was due & how much i was financing they told me i was
financing approx. 19,400 on a vehicle i was told my financing was 11,800. But
since it was after the 3 day window to cancel the contract I was screwed!!! I
called my lawyer & tried to get out of this headache so i have to take them
to court! The two that WORKED TOGETHER are Joe Giordano & Michelle Scalise.
Also watch out for a salesman named Randy, he was in on it also! I've been
calling all the investigative reporters & media people telling them of their
SCAM!!!!!!! The Dept. of Consumer Affairs KNOWS ALL ABOUT THEM & how they
RIP PEOPLE OFF!!!! Thank you
Oh no Jay, THANK YOU for the time you put into the email for us! It's awesome!
Tags: baron auto maxx, joe giordano, michelle scalise, jayjake@baronautoscam.com Permanent Link to And the emails keep coming! | 8/17/2010 - This one is a tag team from Michelle and Joe!!! |
Ok, so this one i'll call a "tag team" effort. Kinda like the hardy boys from WWE, but one of them is a girl. But weren't the Hardy boys girls anyway? Wait, what? Never mind, let's just move onto the story!
On May 22, 2010, my wife and I came into Baron Auto Maxx and spoke to Michelle
Scalise to trade in my wife’s 2002 Hyundai Sonata when she spoke to us she
stated that the amount that was owned on the loan was too high compared to what
they would give us for the trade. We also spoke to Joe the General Manager as to
getting approved for the loan with no money down he advised us that they were
working on the loan we said ok. After two hours of waiting Michelle stated that
they could get me approved for the 2008 Nissan Quest with Chase Auto Finance for
$15, 775.00 I said ok. After the contract was signed Joe informed me that Chase
will call to verify the information, Joe told me to, “Say Yes “to the questions
that the Bank Representative would ask because if I said no than Joe informed me
that the Bank would take repossession of the vehicle because the figures would
not add up on the contract; and if the Bank asked how much we put down to say
$1000.00 Cash” On Tuesday May 25, 2010 a representative from Chase did call me
and asked about the options in the vehicle and how much I put down. I did say
yes to the questions and also $1000 cash because of the fear of repossession on
my credit report and still owing money to the bank after the sale if they
reposed the vehicle. I looked over the options that they said the vehicle had
and it does not have some of what is listed on the advertisements. There is no
remote keyless entry system, power third row vent windows, stereo mounted audio
controls, luggage rack side rails. In addition, the finance charge is $14, 995,
price of vehicle 20, 000 and $1000 cash which I did not put down; total 35, 995
after all of the payments have been made. My question is how would I get
approved when I was currently 3 months behind on my auto loan with a balance of
over $25, 000 and also behind on my credit cards? On August 11, 2010 my wife had
the phone on speaker and spoke to Michelle and explained that the price that she
and Joe quoted was not listed anywhere on the contract which Joe and Michelle
stated that it would be and also there is no remote keyless entry system, power
third row vent windows, stereo mounted audio controls and luggage rack side
rails. When my wife was talking to Michelle, I heard the General Manger Joe in
the background and said not to talk to her and he grabbed the phone and was
yelling at my wife and said that she was looking for loop holes in order to get
out of the contract and informed us to have our attorney call him. All I wanted
was to have the options that we paid for under the loan. The original call was
to see where the title was because I still do not have it.
I don't have an actual name of the writer of this email since he used his wife's email address. But, this is just another story on the wonders that Baron Auto can do!
Tags: tag team, joe giordano, michelle scalise, baron auto maxx, joe giardonojake@baronautoscam.com Permanent Link to This one is a tag team from Michelle and Joe!!! | 8/10/2010 - How about some stats! |
Ok, so this site has been up for quite some time now, just over 9 months as of last week. And the site tends to generate more traffic every month.
So, let's run down the numbers.
As of July, the site generated 213 visits (just for July). Now, of those visits, 88.42% of those visits were new visitors. Which means, for the month of July, we have had 188.3346 new visitors! The other 24.6654 visitors are people coming back to see what's going on with the site, or checking to see if it's still up and running.
I'm thinking I may start accepting bids for advertising on the site. Drop me an email if you're interested. My email is right underneath this post!
Tags: statistics, baron auto stats, baron auto statisticsjake@baronautoscam.com Permanent Link to How about some stats! | 8/8/2010 - Now THIS is what it's all about! | I got an email on Friday while I was driving out to Hersheypark, and at first it was EXTREMELY vague.
Here's how the email correspondence went:
Email 1:
thanks for saving me
At this point I am thinking, wow, I must have gotten this email by accident. It was probably meant to go to admin@jesus.org. So, I responded.
My Email Response:
Saving you? How so?
Jake
Email Response to my Email Response:
was thinking about dealing w baron......their deals seemed to good to be true
and while searching for info about them i found your site
I am glad you found my site! I hope you had a great weekend!
Tags: saved from baron auto, jake the saviorjake@baronautoscam.com Permanent Link to Now THIS is what it's all about! | 8/5/2010 - Baron Auto of Jamaica, Love Howard |
Here's an email from Howard about Baron Auto of Jamaica
Here is the latest update on Baron Jamaica that I thought you and your readers
might be interested to know. In Oct. 2007 the Department of Motors Vehicles and
the NYC police raided the used vehicle facility and confiscated most of the
computers. Unfortunately rumor has it that the hard drive they were looking for
was surreptitiously removed. It is alleged that phony pay check stubs, illegal
drivers licenses, and phony employment verification scams were only some of the
unethical means Baron was supervising in order to sell a vehicle. Although the
consumer with bad credit might have been happy to be driving, Baron sure made
them pay for it! Any one who fell victim to the Baron scam should not be naïve
to think that Baron himself did not know what was going on. Signing blank
contracts and then adding etch for $5000, or a warranty for $3000 was going on
in Jamaica at an alarming rate. Baron feeds his greedy pockets by preying on
the uneducated trusting consumer. I do not understand how this man is not in
jail! The good news is it seems his greed might have finally gotten the best of
him because another store bit the dust. Where did all the employees go? I bet
the sleaziest ones ended up at another Baron location, maybe Hillside or Yonkers
and they will just perpetuate the Baron repugnant way of doing business.
Thanks for the time Howard, you're awesome!
Tags: baron auto, baron auto jamaica, baron auto mall of jamaicajake@baronautoscam.com Permanent Link to Baron Auto of Jamaica, Love Howard |
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