Baron Auto Scam Blog
| 5/16/2011 - This one is from Brian |
I got an email over the weekend while in Miami for my brother in laws graduation at the University of Miami, it was very well written and had lots of beautiful information regarding the guys out east at Baron Auto Maxx.
Because of this emails excellent grammar, I figured I would spend a few minutes formatting it for you. The people!
And here we go:
Unreal these people. I spent about 2 months looking all over for a 2006 to 2007 BMW 750LI. I finally found one for an advertised price of $26,900 at Baron Auto in Long
Island (good price) talked with Michelle multiple times and went back and forth. Financing was approved through Chase and I made arrangements to fly into
Long Island and drive the car home.
I was told the car would be detailed. When I arrived it was a complete mess..
I was told they did not have time to clean it as the deal was "rushed" together.
When we got there the price was higher due to "fees" from chase. i said whatever
and started driving said car home. Immediately drove like crap. Called Michelle and
was told it was probably in need of an alignment. Michelle then proceeded to tell me to take it somewhere and we will refund the
money. When I got back to Rochester I took the car to the local BMW dealer.
Needless to say, a complete mess. Brakes were shot, wheels bent, stereo not
functioning properly, computer updates, GPS not working, etc. spent $3800 in
repairs to get the car running properly. I was then advised by Baron to fax the invoice and I would
be refunded.. We both know how that turned out. I have numerous calls into Joe
(all unreturned) and Michelle keeps telling me she is sorry. Today I text
Michelle's cell # and tell her I have given up. Filing a complaint with NYS
Attorney General, BBB, and my attorney. I was told "i understand". I then advised her and asked her if she was aware of all the negative
feedback on her scum bag dealership. She said "yes, that's why she doesn't work
there anymore" somehow I highly doubt this.
And that's where I stand.
I have a car that I put $3500 down on, $3800 in repairs, and still needs
$1200 to drive properly with the bent wheel.
JOE and MICHELLE can rot in hell.
I can't say I am surprised in the least bit. In the above email, it seems as if Michelle Scalise had left on her own, and wasn't let go. Whatever the truth, i'm right there with Brian. If there were a hell (which I don't believe exists), I would say they should rot in it. Instead, they will leave a legacy far beyond one could have ever dreamed. And this legacy will follow both of them for many many years until this website eventually disappears.
Tags: baron auto maxx, baron auto, baron auto mall, joe giordano, michelle scalisejake@baronautoscam.com Permanent Link to This one is from Brian | 4/22/2011 - Baron Auto Emails |
Hello guys, it's been a while, and I've had a ton of work that I have been working on regarding side projects and search stuff, and I haven't been able to post any emails lately. Just want you to know I am receiving all your email, and I'm sorry I haven't been able to get back to most of you, but like I siad, it's really been extremely hectic on this end. Anyway, there was one email that stuck out in my mind, and it's actually favorable to Baron Nissan.
So, here is a quick excerpt of that email:
The guys over at Baron Nissan treated me with courtesy and respect
Ok, that's the short and skinny of the email. She seemed very pleased with the guys over there, I just don't have the time to spell check and reformat the whole email. But, it was a good / heart warming email.
Tags: emails, baron auto, baron nissanjake@baronautoscam.com Permanent Link to Baron Auto Emails | 11/18/2010 - Sorry, but things are insane over here! | Sorry it's been a while since i've been able to post, but i've been insanely busy over here. Since I built this site, I've had a handful of job offers to help other websites get on the first page of google. First page of google is a beautiful place to be.
With that in mind, that's what i've been up to for the time being. I am still receiving emails about people's horrific experiences with the people of Baron Auto and all affiliated parties, and I will get them up as soon as I possibly can.
I have also found out that the email about Joe Giordano and Michelle Scalise is nothing but a bunch of bullshit!
Lots of love, i'll catch up with everyone shortly!
Tags: baron auto mall, sorry it has been a while since i have posted, google, joe giordano, michelle scalisjake@baronautoscam.com Permanent Link to Sorry, but things are insane over here! | 10/14/2010 - I think i'm in love with Tim |
Ok, so i've had a pretty wild day. I got a flat tire last night (put on doughnut, moved on) and spent most of the day waiting to get the tire replaced. Totally sucked!
But, as I waited for the tire to get fixed, I got an email that made me laugh, cry, and piss myself all at the same time. I'm just kidding, I didn't cry.
Anyway, the email was from Tim. Tim seems like a pretty nice guy, he was so nice, that he even let me know that Joe and Michele and one other unnamed character was let go from Baron Auto Maxx in Medford.
And you know what, that sucks for them. I don't like the fact that someone lost their job, and I can only be partially to blame. And the reason that I am partially to blame is that I made a voice for all of the people who have been screwed by Baron Auto. With that knowledge, here's the email in it's entirety (not sure if I spelled that correctly, it looks wonky).
Dear Jake,
I am writing you this letter from the bottom of my heart,(I am in the car
business, for various reasons I wont say where I work) I thought you should know
that because of your vendetta for Baron Automall, you might get some
satisfaction in knowing that Joe G and two other employees of that store 1
including Michelle S are no longer with the company. Maybe you are satisfied
with those results, and maybe you won't be able to sleep at night knowing that
something you were a big part of caused a couple of people with families that
they need to support they're jobs. Everybody in retail, no matter what you
sell, there will be complaints. That's what happens when you deal with the
public. Everyone has their own point of view and remember there are 3 sides to
every story in life. To know that people's careers on the line and you were
responsible for their demise must make you feel really good! Or, on the other
hand, maybe it doesn't. Maybe you feel bad, is that really gonna change things
now?
One last thing in closing, judging by the complaints on your site, it seems
that they gave you and your fan club a choice if you wanted to purchase the car
or not, you CHOSE YES! Remember that? That's why this site is in affect, So
ultimately, everyone has a choice and when people feel that they made the wrong
choice after the fact I guess your motto is to "blame the other person instead
of looking in the mirror." Either way, no harm done to me, I didn't even know
them, I just knew of them through your site which the ratings are soaring
because of all the buzz in the car business about it and everyone in the local
industry talking about, (probably not high ratings from customers) BTW, I know
this won't be posted on your site, I wanted to share this with you for your
conscience.
Best of luck to you
Tim
I agree with Tim in some areas though. He says that I had the choice whether or not to buy the car. Joe Giordano also had the choice to not screw me. As a customer, we tend to put faith in the person who is going to give us goods or services. If those goods or services are not given properly, we have every right to complain. Which I did, and it fell on deaf ears. If the issue was fixed early on, the website would have never been created which would mean Joe G and Michelle S would still have jobs (that of course, if the loss of those jobs stemmed from this website that is).
There is actually a string of emails from Tim, i'll pick out the goodies and make a post tomorrow when I get a few moments.
Tags: tim, baron auto maxx, baron auto, joe g., michelle s.jake@baronautoscam.com Permanent Link to I think i'm in love with Tim | 10/5/2010 - I received an email today! | Ok, so i've gotten a few emails in the past few weeks, but i've been way too busy to post any of them. BUT, today I got an email from Chuck who fights for our freedom every day in the military and thought i'll put him right at the top of the list of stories to be posted. Here's his story:
Hey Jake,
I'm in the military and saw your website when I was trying to fix
a problem with my bank about the final payment on my loan...... I have a story
to tell but it may not be finished today. I have to admit though I'm partly to
blame.
In May of 2004 I needed to trade in my car for a bigger vehicle so I could
take better care of my son who was 4 months old at the time. My first
mistake was telling my wife to go by herself. When she picked out the vehicle, I
was originally fine with her choice ( 2001 Chevy Blazer) even though I had
expressly told her that we needed a Minivan in case we wanted more kids. To say
the least I should have went with my gut. There were parts missing, like the
valence cover for the back and the rear wiper didn't work ( and doesn't to this
day) the check engine light came on a couple of months later and we still have
not been able to clear it. And now that I'm ready to pay off the loan the bank
says that my payoff is 2850 more than I originally agreed. In all fairness,
Danny had told me to tell the bank that the car was an LT instead of an LS or we
could not get the loan so I agreed, but I can't help but wonder what would have
happened if I had gone by myself to look there. Because of your blog I am
calling the bank to get another copy of the original bank loan papers and
compare them to mine which I have to find. If you do post this I want everyone
to read this part very carefully:
IF YOU PURCHASED A CAR FROM ONE OF THESE "DEALERS" CALL YOUR BANK AND SEND THEM A COPY OF YOUR FINANCE AGREEMENT.... COMPARE IT WITH THE ONE YOU HAVE
AND SEE IF ITS THE SAME. COMPARE IT TO THE SALES RECEIPT YOU SIGNED. MAYBE THERE
CAN BE A WAY TO CATCH THESE GUYS.
Thanks for your hard work with this website. Maybe you could recommend some
better dealers for these people.
Once I start getting good reviews on other dealers in the area, i'll be sure to get some info up for everyone! Once again, thank you Chuck for your email and the fact that you are out there every day protecting us!
Tags: i received an email today, chuck, baron auto, baron long island, baron auto groupjake@baronautoscam.com Permanent Link to I received an email today! | 9/28/2010 - Another email from Michele!!! |
Ok, so today I got another 2 emails (automated through the Baron Auto system) from Michele.
Here's what I got:
Dear Baron Auto Scams!!,
When you are the largest volume E-Dealer
in your area and committed to utilizing the Internet to better serve our
customers your, website promotions and incentives must be updated daily! It has been a while since your original
inquiry and our website has been updated to better serve you. Take this opportunity to visit us online
showroom and get ready to save! Enjoy
your stay.
Sincerely,
Michelle Scalise
Internet Sales
Manager Sorry, i've been busy with a few business opportunities. I got a few emails in the past few weeks, i'll update when I get the free moment.
Tags: joe giordano, baron auto, michelle scalisejake@baronautoscam.com Permanent Link to Another email from Michele!!! | 9/20/2010 - Sorry, been very busy | Hey there loyal readers, sorry it's been a while, but i've been really busy lately with a lot of different things, that nobody really wants to know about. But I do have info. And info is good!
So, in the month of August, we have a total of 210 visitors, and 68.10% of those visitors are NEW! So, that means we are starting to get more repeat visitors, and a little less unique (new) visitors. But that's fine, since we aren't getting too many new inquiries about used cars due to the slow economy right now. No worries, it'll all pick up again in due time.
Other than that, all is still the same. I have recently received a few emails from people who are looking for new / used cars, and I know that the information is worth A LOT. I know because I used to work for a company that would sell that information to buyers. If you need a car, i'll be more than happy to get you in touch with people that I personally trust, or I know that I see as trustworthy.
Tags: baron auto, baron auto mall, baron auto outlet, baron auto maxx, updates, need a used car, ill try to help you outjake@baronautoscam.com Permanent Link to Sorry, been very busy | 9/8/2010 - Everyone have a great Labor Day? | I hope everyone had an excellent Labor Day weekend. Mine was pretty awesome. Went to the city on Saturday, then painted and sexied up my brother in laws bedroom.
So recently, I've been receiving thank you emails. Only a few, but still, a few is much better than none. So, for those of you who are finding the site, and are modifying your thoughts of purchasing at Baron Auto, that's great to hear. If you found the site after being screwed by Baron Auto, I am really sorry to hear that, but would love to hear your story. You can send your stories to jake@baronautoscam.com.
I received an email quite some time ago from an investigator from esurance. Esurance is an online auto insurance firm that basically does insurance. They were trying to get some information about David J. Baron, Baron Auto City, Baron Auto Mall, David Baron, Port Motors Lincoln Mercury, Port Motors Daily Rental, and Best Ford Taxi. Esurance had a lawsuit pending against Baron for some sort of insurance fraud.
Unfortunately I can't give out too much information, but that should whet your appetite just enough to wonder what the hell were these people doing?!?!?!?
Tags: baron auto, baron auto mall, labor day, david j. baron, david baron, baron auto city, port motors, port motors lincoln mercury, best ford taxijake@baronautoscam.com Permanent Link to Everyone have a great Labor Day? | 7/20/2010 - I love me a good Baron Auto Story |
This is a story from a reader by the name of Dee. Unedited, just as all prior emails. Check it out, I hope you guys find it as intriguing as I do! This story takes place at the Baron Auto on Hollis Avenue in Queens, NY.
Hi Jake
Dude I love your website. A friend just emailed me your website
link. Last year I was looking for a car in a local newspaper. At the time I
drove a 2001 Lexus GS and was car shopping for my wife. I came across and ad for
a 2003 Grey Lincoln LS for a decent price so I decided to check it out. I
arrived at Baron Auto Mall on Jamaica Ave in Hollis, NY and asked to speak to a
salesman about the car and was told to wait a while. They offered me a cup of
coffee and were very polite. I waited about 10 minutes and then decided to go
outside for a smoke. When I came back they said that the salesman for the car is
still not available. I started to get frustrated and asked to see the car
anyway. I was again told not to worry and just sit and wait a bit longer. I sat
again for another 10 minutes and took it upon myself to look at the car without
assistance. When I got to the showroom to my surprise the salesman was by the
car with a mechanic and smoke was coming out of the engine. They had me in the
front for 30 minutes trying to clear out all the smoke before they showed me the
car. When I asked him what the problem was he told me not to worry about it and
they will have the car serviced and the problem would be fixed. I was no longer
interested in the car. The salesman wanted to show me other cars but first he
wanted to run my credit. I told him that it was OK and I saw a few cars that I
took interest in. I signed a release and gave then my driver's license.
The next 4 hours was hell. Not only did they show me cars
that I noticed had problems but they showed me cars way out of my price range. I
would have just walked out of there but the sales manager disappeared with my
license and no one could find him. I realized I was being held hostage until I
made a deal. Anyway I never did get a car from them and I have several friends
and co-works with similar stories.
For anyone who gets to read this understand this at BARON AUTO
MALL they are all the same. They send these salesmen to school to learn how to
be shady. You walking in there is like a lamb being sent to the lions den. You
have little of no chance. I would never return to any of there locations.
I have a friend who went to the Selden location that had an
issue and it took 4 months to correct it. She went to co-sign on a loan and
instead her name was the only one on the paper work. THESE PEOPLE ARE SHARKS.
Money is thier only goal. In their business they also have a saying there is an
ass for every seat. Please don't become one.
Thanks for the story Dee, we are all now more knowledgeable because of your contribution. Thank you for your time!
Tags: baron auto mall hollis queens, baron auto hollis avenue, baron auto queens, baron auto mall, baron auto outletjake@baronautoscam.com Permanent Link to I love me a good Baron Auto Story | 6/10/2010 - Welcome back!!! |
It's been way too long. I've been extremely busy with a lot of other things going on in my life, and I would like to thank everyone for their emails that I have received in the past 6 months. I am now available to start posting these emails, and I hope everyone enjoys the antics of Baron Auto and the Baron franchise that has been plaguing the industry for a long time.
Here is one of the first emails I ever received about the site. It's a hate email! Gotta love these, they are so awesome in so many ways, that I can't help but keep pushing further with what I do!
i typed in baron auto and went to your site yto see what it was, and let me tell
you, you are one pretty fucked up guy. You do realize that they are 2nd biggest
used car dealers in newyork and that is only one of their dealerships, and one
salesman or manager. You must be pretty peacthetic to make a website. Do you
have a LIFE? thats all and have a nice day.
That is the EXACT email I received unedited. I hope everyone enjoys it. He was probably an employee at the time.
Oh, and don't worry, i'll be posting just about 1 or 2x a day to get everyone up to date on all the emails!
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